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스웨덴 특유의 방식 - 학교, 술집 완전 폐쇄하지 않은 이유 (1) 이웃 신뢰도 가장 높은 편, 정부는 권고, 시민은 자발성 발휘. 영국 미국에 비해 2배나 높은 이웃 신뢰도. (2) 1인 가구가 전체 50% 차지 (3) 노인들을 모시고 살지 않음, 노인들 독립가구 많아 (4) 공공의료 시설 좋은 편. 


이웃과 신뢰도가 가장 높은 유럽국가 스웨덴, 코로나 위기 대처 방식, 과연 성공할까? 전문가가 아니니 판단할 수도 없고, 아직 결론도 내기는 힘들다. 하지만 분명한 것은 평상시 얼마나 이웃들, 타인과의 사회적 '연대'와 '신뢰'가 튼튼하느냐가 코로나 전염병 방어 성패를 좌우한다고 본다. 백신 개발, 공중 병원 건설 등 의료적 사회제도와 더불어, 영국과 미국에 비해 스웨덴이 사회적 신뢰,이웃,타인에 대한 신뢰도가 2배나 높다는 것을 우리는 주목해 볼 필요가 있다.


스웨덴 코로나 대처 방식 특성을 보도한 캐나다 한 뉴스 토막 정리.


 

요약: 스웨덴 정부는 '사회적 거리두기'를 권고하고, 그 결정과 실천 여부는 시민이 한다. 학교와 상점, 술집은 아직 문열어. 이것은 시민의 신뢰와 자발성을 강조하는 스웨덴 특유의 사회적 가치에서 비롯되었다.


 스웨덴 수상 스테판 로프펜 (Stefan Lofven)도 사회적(신체적) 거리두기는 권고했지만, 주택에만 거주하게 하거나, 공공장소 완전 폐쇄결정은 하지 않았다.

50명 이상 모이는 공공장소는 금지, 스키장, 극장 폐쇄 권고했고, 상인들은 자발적으로 가게 문열고 닫음을 결정하고 있다. 


영국, 프랑스, 스페인, 이탈리아와는 대조적으로, 정부가 경찰 동원이나 강압적인 조치는 취하지 않고 있다. 


물론 이에 대한 외부 지적도 있다.  스웨덴 정부가 도박을 감행하고 있다. 확진자 5천명 넘고, 300명 사망자가 발생했기 때문이다. 


하지만 스웨덴 의료진들은  현재 방침보다 더 밀어부치게 되면, 의료인들이 감당하지 못할 것이라는 진단이다.

 

전염병 학자  테크넬(Tegnell) 발언
"아직까지 노인 거주 주택과 병원으로 바이러스 침투하지 않음. 스톡홀름 몇 개 병원들은 어려움도 겪고 있지만, 전반적인 스웨덴 의료 체제는 잘 기능하고 있음. 앞으로 필요하면 몇 개월 몇 년 이런 ‘자발적 협조’ 방식을 채택할 것임"


경제는 당장에는 침체를 경험하겠지만, 코로나 위기를 지나면 다시 발전할 것이다.


역사학자 라스 트라고드 (Lars Tragardh) 지적

pandemic (전염병 유행)에 대해 다른 나라들과 달리’ 정부는 사회적(신체적) 거리두기를 권고하되 시민들의 자발성에 맡긴다는 스웨덴 사람들의 태도는, 스웨덴 사회가 아주 ‘신뢰’를 중시하기 때문에, 그런 특이한 방식으로 코로나 바이러스에 대응하고 있음.


한 신뢰도 조사에 따르면, 스웨덴 조사 대상자 중 60%는 다른 사람들(이웃)을 신뢰하고 있다고 답변했다. 이러한 조사는 1996년 이래 동일하고, 미국과 영국의 2배에 달한다.

또한 정부와 공무기관들도 스웨덴 시민들이 올바른 결정을 할 것이라고 믿는다. 

스웨덴 가구의 50%는 1인 가구다. 이 비율은 유럽의 30%에 비해서 월등히 높다.

스웨덴 특징은 노인들과 같이 살지 않는다는 것이고, 대부분 노인들은 독립적으로 살거나 정부 지원 주택에서 살고 있다.


영국처럼 학부모가 나서서 정부더러 학교를 폐쇄하라고 스웨덴 학부모들은 행동하지 않는다. 왜냐하면 스웨덴 부모들은 대부분 맞벌이 부부이기 때문에, 학교가 폐쇄되면 그들 일에 지장을 받기 때문이다.  


그러나 지난 주 2천명 의사와 의료 전문가들은 “스웨덴도 예외 국가가 될 수 없다”고 진단하고, 정부의 신속한 대응을 주문하는 편지를 발표했다. 


그럼에도, 전염병학자 엠마 프란스는 스웨덴 정부 방침에 동조하는 편인데, 그 이유는 사람들을 집안에 언제까지 가둬둘 수 있겠는가, 이 방식이 지속가능하기 힘들다는 것이다.

더 나은 방식이 뭔가? 





Why is Sweden staying open amid the coronavirus pandemic?


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-why-is-sweden-staying-open-amid-the-coronavirus-pandemic/



While other European countries are under strict lockdowns, Swedes can still go to school, drink at pubs, and mingle in parks and streets. The country’s chief epidemiologist says the unusual measures are rooted in national values of voluntarism and trust – but not everyone thinks they will work






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Why is Sweden staying open amid the coronavirus pandemic?

While other European countries are under strict lockdowns, Swedes can still go to school, drink at pubs, and mingle in parks and streets. The country’s chief epidemiologist says the unusual measures are rooted in national values of voluntarism and trust – but not everyone thinks they will work


PAUL WALDIEEUROPE CORRESPONDENT

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00:00 Open this photo in gallery An electronic billboard urging sick people to stay home is shown on an otherwise bustling main street in downtown Stockholm on April 1, 2020. PHOTOGRAPHY BY JONATHAN 




While countries around the world impose strict measures to stop the spread of the new coronavirus, Sweden has followed a different path: no lockdowns, no school closures and no ban on going to the pub. The Scandinavian country is pursuing what Prime Minister Stefan Lofven calls a “common sense” response to the pandemic by keeping the country largely functioning and aiming health measures at the most vulnerable.


 “We who are adults need to be exactly that – adults. Not spread panic or rumours," Mr. Lofven said in a televised address to the country last week. "No one is alone in this crisis, but each person has a heavy responsibility.” The latest on the coronavirus: Ontario to release COVID-19 modelling data; Toronto threatens to fine residents who violate social distancing What are the coronavirus rules in my province?


 A quick guide to what’s allowed and open, or closed and banned The approach has put Sweden at odds with many countries across Europe, including its neighbours – Denmark, Norway and Finland – where almost all public venues have been shut and people have been ordered to stay indoors. In Sweden, most bars, restaurants and schools remain open, and people continue to mingle in parks and on city streets. The government has introduced social-distancing guidelines and encouraged people to work from home. Gatherings of more than 50 people have also been banned, and some businesses, notably cinemas and ski resorts, have voluntarily closed. But few of the measures are mandatory, and almost no one expects Sweden to adopt the kind of fines and police checks that have become commonplace in Britain, France, Spain and Italy. 


Open this photo in gallery Anders Tegnell is the chief epidemiologist of Sweden's public health agency. A growing number of doctors and medical experts worry that the government is taking a huge gamble, especially as the number of infections in Sweden surpass 5,000 and the death toll approaches 300. 


But public health officials insist their efforts are working and that doing anything more drastic would be unsustainable.


 “In Sweden we are following the tradition that we have in Sweden and working very much with voluntary measures, very much with informing the public about the right things to do. 


That has worked reasonably well so far,” Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s chief epidemiologist and main architect of the policy, said in an interview from Stockholm.


 Dr. Tegnell said most people are travelling less, working from home and adhering to social-distancing measures. “We have so far not had very much of a spread [of the virus] into elderly homes and almost no spread into the hospitals, which is very important,” he said. 


He added that, so far, the hospital system has generally been able to cope with admissions, but some in Stockholm have faced difficulty. For now, though, he has no plans to change the overall approach. 


“We know that [with] these kinds of voluntary measures that we put in place in Sweden, we can basically go on with them for months and years if necessary.” And even though the economy has slowed, “it has the potential to start moving as usual very, very quickly once these things are over.”



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Travel has quieted down, but not halted, at Stockholm's main railway station on April 2. Open this photo in gallery A man cleans and disinfects a taxi to prevent the spread of the coronavirus. Open this photo in gallery People take in the cherry blossoms at Kungstradgarden. 


Health officials have issued recommendations for social distancing in Sweden, but they are voluntary. Historian Lars Tragardh said Sweden’s response to the pandemic is rooted in its unique social attitudes. “Sweden is a high-trust country in a way, which is highly unusual,” said Dr. Tragardh, a professor of history and civil society studies at Ersta Skondal University in Stockholm. Surveys show that Swedes trust the government and each other to a degree rarely seen in other countries. 


An annual study of public attitudes by researchers at the University of Gothenburg found that almost 60 per cent of Swedes said they had a high degree of trust in people. That percentage has remained constant in every survey since 1996, and is about double the level in Britain and the United States. “There’s also trust the other way,” Dr. Tragardh said. 


“The government and state institutions, generally speaking, trust citizens to do the right thing.” Swedish family structures also differ from those of other parts of Europe. Almost half of Swedish households consist of a single person, the highest proportion in Europe and well more than the European Union average of 30 per cent. 


There’s also no tradition of living with grandparents, and elderly people tend to live on their own or in state-supported homes. “Swedes are proverbially suffering anyway from some kind of tendency toward social distancing,” Dr. Tragardh said with a laugh. “So in that sense, culturally speaking, we are well equipped to handle a crisis of this sort.”


 There has also been little public pressure in Sweden to close all schools, unlike in Britain, where parents demanded the government do so. That’s largely because Sweden has a high percentage of families with two working parents, and Dr. Tegnell concluded that closing schools would be far too disruptive. Instead, he left primary schools open, and closed high schools and universities, but classes continue online and some may soon reopen.


 Not everyone is comfortable with the government’s go-slow approach. Last week 2,000 doctors and public-health experts signed an open letter calling on the government to go further. “We still have some time to react and suppress the virus,” the letter said. “Our nation should not be the exception in Europe."



 Emma Frans, an epidemiologist at Sweden’s Karolinska Institute, has some sympathy for the government’s approach. 


“Locking people in and closing schools is very difficult to sustain,” Dr. Frans said. 


But she is concerned about the pressure that’s building in the health-care system.


 “So I’m not sure at all that this will work, but my question is: What is a better thing to do?”


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복지삭감과 노동자 해고 자유라는 신자유주의 원조국가, 영국보수당도 변했다. 영국 보수당 보리스 존슨이 3개월 특단의 조치를 내렸다.


1. 코로나 전염병(COVID-19) 대책, 영국 보수당의 선택, (3월부터 5월까지) 3개월간 영국 노동자 3천 300만에게 임금의 80%를 보전해, 월 소득 365만원 보장하겠다. 월 소득 365만원은 영국 중위소득보다 더 많다. 영국 역사상 유례없는 정부 투자액, 3500억 파운드 (511조)이다.


영국 보수당이 측은지심 (compassion)이라는 단어를 썼다. 타인의 아픔에 공감을 표시하겠다는 전통적인 가치로 복귀했다. 영국 보수당 수상 보리스 존슨이 떠듬떠듬, 재무장관 리쉬 수낙이 유창하게, 상가, 레스토랑, 공연장,술집 문닫아라, 그리고, 정부는 월별로 새로운 대책을 발표해, 소득 보전을 해주겠다고 약속했다.


정부 소득보전 대상은 영국 노동자 3천 300만이고, 이 중 330만은 자영업자이다. 그 조건은 코로나 위기 기간 동안에 현재 회사가 노동자를 해고하지 말아야 한다.


복지삭감,노동자해고 자유라는 신자유주의 원조국가 영국 보수당은 왜 이런 기존 영국 쌔처 수상의 길을 역행하는 극약처방을 내렸는가?


크게 보면 두 가지 이유가 있어 보인다.


첫번째는 영국 실업 폭등 예상이다. 도이체 방크 경제전문가들이 이번 COVID-19 발발로 영국 경제가 2008년 금융공황보다 더 심각하게 타격을 받을 것이라고 예상했다. 수백만 실직에 따른 실업률이 2배로 증가할 것으로 예상했기 때문이다. 실업에 대한 선제적 예방차원이다.


두번째는, 영국정부가 다른 국가 정부들의 적극적인 현금 지원책에 자극을 받았다. 미국 트럼프의 월1천 달러 지급, 덴마크 정부는 노동자 임금의 75% 지급, 프랑스 정부는 해고자에게 기존임금의 84%에 해당하는 “부분 실업 수당” 지급과 재고용 계획을 약속했기 때문이다.


2. 영국 보수당의 다른 지원책 내용들은, 연말 세금 정산 혜택, 주거비 30% 보조, 기업의 부가가치세 납세 연기 등이다. 

(1) 기업 보조: 부가가치세 VAT (300억 파운드에 해당하는 경기 부양책: 4386억원) 납세 연기

(2) 400만 가구 혜택: 연말 세금 정산시:  1천 파운드(146만원) 지급 = 세금 반환  

(3) 월세 보조금 : 10억 파운드 (1조 4620억원) 보조금 투하, 현행 월세의 30%에 해당 





관련 기사 출처: https://bit.ly/2xXHoeN


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UK government to pay 80% of wages for those not working in coronavirus crisis
Rishi Sunak announces ‘unprecedented’ scheme offering up to £2,500 a month

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Fri 20 Mar 2020 17.27 GMT-
The government is to pay the wages of millions of workers across Britain to keep them in jobs as the economic fallout from the coronavirus outbreak escalates.

In an unprecedented step for the British government, the chancellor, Rishi Sunak, said the state would pay grants covering up to 80% of the salary of workers if companies kept them on their payroll, rather than lay them off as the economy crashes. The extraordinary payments will be worth up to a maximum of £2,500 per month, just above the median income.

Coming just days after the government announced a business bailout package worth £350bn to help firms cope with the lockdown of large parts of the British economy as the disease spreads, the chancellor described his revamped plan as one of the most comprehensive in the world and “unprecedented in British history”. City economists said the new plan would cost an additional £78bn.

Sunak said: “We are starting a great national effort to protect jobs. We want to look back on this time and remember how in the face of a generation-defining moment we undertook a collective national effort and we stood together. It’s on all of us.”

The chancellor said his commitments were “unprecedented measures for unprecedented times” as he appealed to the public to support each other.

“Now more than at any time in our history we will be judged by our capacity for compassion. Our ability to come through this won’t just be down to what government or businesses do but the individual acts of kindness that we show each other.”

He said there would be no limit on the funding available to pay people’s wages. The payments will be backdated to the start of March, will be up and running within weeks, open initially for at least three months, and could be extended if necessary.

Speaking directly to employers as growing numbers of British firms teeter on the brink of collapse, leaving millions of jobs hanging in the balance, Sunak said: “The government is doing its best to stand behind you. And I’m asking you to do your best to stand behind our workers.”

The government is also deferring the next quarter of VAT payments, which is the equivalent of injecting another £30bn into the economy and is designed to help companies stay afloat, he added.

Sunak was speaking alongside Boris Johnson at the daily Downing Street press conference hours after schools shut to most children until further notice and just after the prime minister announced the enforced closure of pubs, restaurants, theatres and other social venues. The shutdowns will have dramatic repercussions for the economy, and Johnson said the package of financial aid was intended to be temporary, and part of a “joint objective” between people and the government to beat the disease.

“We will do everything in our power to help. Supporting you directly in a way that government has never done before, in addition to the package we have already set out for business,” Johnson said.


How do I know if I have coronavirus and what happens next? – video explainer
The government has come under mounting pressure in recent days to do more to support ordinary people after taking unprecedented steps to help firms as the crisis worsens. Other countries have taken steps to support workers as the global pandemic intensives, including in the US, where the White House is looking at making direct cash payments to American citizens, and Denmark, where the state will pay 75% of workers’ wages.

French workers who are temporarily laid off by their employers due to the coronavirus crisis are entitled to claim “partial unemployment benefit” equal to 84% of their wages, and employers are obliged to keep their jobs open for them.

Sunak did not provide estimates for the cost of the government paying workers’ wages, as the price tag will depend on the extent of firms taking up the offer. There are around 33 million workers in the British labour force, with just over a 10th of them self-employed. While unemployment is currently the lowest since the mid 1970s, it is expected to rise dramatically.

The consultancy Capital Economics said the latest measures could cost around £78bn and save hundreds of thousands of jobs. Without the wage subsidy, unemployment could have doubled to 8% with more than 1.5 million people tumbling out of work, they said.

Instead, the jobless rate is now expected to climb to 6% with about 700,000 people losing their jobs.

The chancellor also announced measures to strengthen the benefits safety net for people out of work, increasing the value of universal credit and tax credits by £1,000 a year to help more than 4m vulnerable households across the country, in a package worth £7bn. He also earmarked £1bn of extra support for renters, ramping up housing benefit and universal credit so the local housing allowance will cover at least 30% of market rents in a local area.

The government has been forced to revise its approach to tackling the Covid-19 outbreak on a daily basis as the increasing severity of the health pandemic and damage to the economy unfolds.

Economists at Deutsche Bank forecast the British economy could suffer the worst recession for a century – outstripping the 2008 financial crisis – with millions of workers losing their jobs and the unemployment rate doubling.

Sunak had initially earmarked £12bn in last week’s budget to soften the impact of the Covid-19 health pandemic, although the chancellor was rapidly forced to come back with fresh measures, while promising to do “whatever it takes” to see the UK through the crisis.


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묻고 더블로 가 !

미국 정치권, 코로나 위기 극복 '생활 지원비' 경쟁에 나서다 

지원비 이름은, 마치 카뮈의 소설 '라 페스트 (흑사병 )'에서 나오듯이, 온 동네 온 시민이 다같이 위기를 극복하자는 취지를 담아야 한다.

"코로나 극복 국민생활 지원비" 이런 내용이 담겼으면 한다. 기본소득 BI 문제를 끌여들일 필요도 없다고 본다.

영화 "타짜" "기생충" 등 한국 영화는 정치 만화에 완전 만능 열쇠를 제공함.

도날드 트럼프와 공화당 "코로나 극복 생활비 지원 1인당 1천달러 (124만원)" 제안하자, 민주당 민주적 사회주의자 버니 샌더스, "코로나 위기 기간 동안, 미국 국민들에게 매월 2천 달러 (248만원) 지원하자"



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왜 도날드 트럼프는 1조 달러를 지원하기로 했는가? 11월 대선을 앞두고 있기 때문이다. 재선을 위한 필승 카드이다. 두번째는 4~5천만 미국인들은 의료보험이 없다. 미흡한 의료보험제도를 보충할 수 있는 유일한 방법은 현금지원밖에 없다. 

도날드 트럼프가 코로나 바이러스로 인한 소득 손실분 보충을 위해, 1조 달러를 지원한다고 발표했다. 소규모 비즈니스 지원이 목적이고, 은행 대출과 현금지원 두 가지를 병행한다.

전체 지원액은 1조 달러 투하.

지원 대상자는 연간 소득 10만 달러 (1억 2400만원) 미만 미국인. 

그런데 아직 정해지지 않았지만, 지원 한도선을 연봉 7만 5천달러 (연간 소득 9천 300만원)에 둘 수도 있음. 

 지원 방식: 1가구당 1천달러 (124만원) 씩 지원.




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Mnuchin pitches GOP on $1 trillion response package that involves paying Americans directly

Washington (CNN)Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Tuesday pitched Republican senators on a massive economic response package amid the coronavirus crisis with a price tag that is now at a staggeringly high $1 trillion, which would include a first wave of checks to Americans that would cost $250 billion, a source familiar tells CNN.

The eye-popping number underscores the growing fears in the White House and on Capitol Hill that the coronavirus outbreak could send the economy into a damaging recession -- and that aggressive intervention by Washington is needed immediately to reverse course.
The proposal comes on the heels of two major pieces of legislation that lawmakers have pushed to address the growing crisis -- and all told amounts to the most far-reaching economic rescue packages since the financial crisis in 2008.
    Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin confirmed the figure, saying that at the President's request they've put a proposal on the table that would "inject a trillion dollars into the economy," following the GOP weekly policy lunch on Tuesday.
    "It is a big number," he said. "This is a very unique situation in this economy." He said it would be a combination of loans, direct checks to individuals and creating liquidity for small businesses.
    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday vowed to keep the Senate in session to approve an earlier relief measure passed by the House and then tackle the next economic stimulus measure, which he described as "phase three."
    Asked about concern among Republican members over the House bill, the Kentucky Republican said, "A number of my members think there are considerable shortcomings in the House bill. My counsel to them is to gag and vote for it anyway," he said.
    After that, "the Senate will not leave until we have passed yet another bill," he said.
    Echoing what the administration is now pushing for, McConnell said "we are examining policy tools to put money directly and quickly into the hands of American families."

    Timeline for a third coronavirus relief measure in the Senate

    McConnell has tasked groups of senators to come together on an economic stimulus plan in line with what Mnuchin is proposing, according to GOP sources. The goal: Get Republicans on the same page, then negotiate a bipartisan deal with Democrats.
    Senate Republicans are trying to see if they can reach an agreement within their conference as early as Wednesday.
    McConnell alluded to this at his news conference earlier in the day.
    "I've divided -- created -- three task forces among Senate Republicans, each of them tasked with coming up with what could best be described as the next bill," McConnell said. "We're trying to reach an agreement among ourselves as to what Senate Republicans and the administration favor doing next."
    Senate Republicans will work to reach an agreement with the administration over that next bill, McConnell said at his news conference, and then will "sit down with our Democratic counterparts and see what we can agree to."

    Cap under consideration for stimulus checks

    Sources told CNN that the Trump administration is looking to set a cap on individuals eligible for the cash benefit that could go directly to Americans.
    What the threshold would be is still under consideration, but likely individuals would need to make below $100,000. It's possible the benefit could be capped for anyone making more than $75,000.
    Some Republican senators are cautiously expressing support for a push by the Trump administration for the massive, multi-billion dollar economic stimulus as well as the possibility of sending money directly to Americans.
    "I understand that Secretary Mnuchin and the President said that their preference now is toward giving direct assistance to families. I think that's exactly the right thing to do," Republican Sen. Josh Hawley of Missouri told reporters on Tuesday.
    The remarks came after Mnuchin said at a briefing at the White House on Tuesday that the administration is "looking at sending checks to Americans immediately."
    Indiana Republican Sen. Todd Young told reporters that he is "open" to the idea of direct payments to families of around $1,000. Republican Senator Mitt Romney of Utah has proposed giving that amount of money to every American adult in response to the coronavirus crisis.
    "What I'm most focused on is what is most helpful to the individual American worker who is unable to work. What is most simulative to our economy, that is what will lead to greater circulation of money throughout our economy, what is the marginal propensity to consume, as an economist would say, of that individual person receiving that thousand dollars, so where are we going to get the most bang for our buck?" he asked.
    In an indication, however, that the Trump administration's proposal is likely to run into resistance, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer plans to contrast his own proposal for coronavirus response with the Trump administration's plan during a conference call with Democratic senators at lunch, according to a Democratic leadership aide.
    In a PowerPoint presentation, Schumer will outline his estimated $750 billion plan and "explain the contrast to the GOP's expected proposals of industry bailout and tax cuts," the aide said.
    The competing plans highlight the challenge ahead for Republican and Democratic lawmakers in Congress as they grapple with what and how much they can do to provide relief for the American public as the coronavirus outbreak hits the United States with an increasingly dire impact.
    Mnuchin said Monday as he left a meeting with GOP senators that he would talk to the Republicans on Tuesday about passing a "general" stimulus package that will be a "big number" but would not say what that figure is.
    "We have a lot more work to do," he said, "and we have to do it quickly."
    He described the actions taken by the administration and Congress as "business interruption insurance."

    White House signals sending direct payments to Americans

    CNN asked President Donald Trump and Mnuchin about the logistics of an economic stimulus idea that could give $1,000 checks to Americans, which is gaining some bipartisan support.
    Mnuchin expressed some support for the idea and indicated it would be discussed during his Capitol Hill meetings.
    "I think it's clear we don't need to send people who make a million dollars a year checks. But we like -- that's one of the ideas we like. We're going to preview that today and then we'll be talking about details afterwards," Mnuchin said.
    Trump chimed in, saying, "I think we're going to do something that gets money to them as quickly as possible. That may not be an accurate way of doing it because obviously some people shouldn't be getting checks for $1,000. But we'll have a pretty good idea by the end of the day what we're going to be doing."
    Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, said that the $850 billion package Mnuchin is proposing is just the "earliest stage" of the negotiations over the next economic stimulus package.
    "We have a list, the administration has a list -- that's how you start the process," Durbin said of the package. "This is just the earliest stage of it."
    Durbin also said, "It's way too early to project a number" on how much the airlines would need.
    Schumer also held a conference call with his Senate Democratic leadership team Tuesday morning to lay out his own $750 billion plan -- and Democrats suggested even more additions, according to Durbin.
    On Monday, Sen. Joni Ernst, an Iowa Republican up for reelection, seemed skeptical about a bailout package for the airline industry. "I think we will have some debate over that," she said.
      "I'm worried about a bailout but we want to make sure that we are supporting industry. But I think we need to focus on the American worker right now rather than some of the large corporations," Ernst said.
      This story has been updated with additional developments Tuesday.


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